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Mr . Ma's avatar

Very interesting essay 🤔🤔🤔

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rocknrollsailor's avatar

Talk about gettin yrself in a twist, all superiority & assumptions about the person you 're addressing, off da mark by miles, I started out by remarking that that casual assumption that people are the only creatures with a mind is a selfindulgent misconception, by now you talk as if your mind is all there is, just sad, so chimps prefer conflict over love ya said ... Peace out then ...

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Bernhard Kutzler's avatar

That's the point. I TOLD you that it is NOT a casual assumption that people are the only known creatures on this planet with a mind. I am a scientist. This insight is the result of meticulous diligent research, for which I isolated myself socially for 3.5 years in order to fully concentrate on this research. The result is documented in my book "Consciousness - Its Nature, Purpose, and How to Use It."

I KNOW. You ASSUME.

If you have the mental capacity to talk with me about my research, let's do it. I'm more than interested in CONSTRUCTIVE conversations. I had my work checked by scientists from fields including neuroscience, medicin, philosophy, mathematics, and quantum physics. So far, noone found a flaw and everyone fully agreed with my conclusions.

So, let's have a serious conversation about it ... if you CAN.

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rocknrollsailor's avatar

That assumption that "humans are the only ones with a mind" ... Ask an animist why hanging out with any other lifeform than humans tends to be more fun, at least they don't base themselves on superiority bias, no offense but it 's so untennable an assumption, main cause of humans upsetting ecodynamics toda point of obliterating evrything else ...

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Bernhard Kutzler's avatar

As a scientist, I am very interested in CONSTRUCTIVE conversations about my research. Science is based on logic, not opinions. The article is a short version of my chain of arguments, the full logical derivation of the difference between humans and animals is in my book “Consciousness - Its Nature, Purpose, and How to Use It” (https://bernhardkutzler.com/books/) as quoted in the article. There I provide the complete derivation of the difference with the meticulousness of a mathematical proof.

So if you want to engage in a conversation about this topic, please follow standard academic practice and argue on the basis of my arguments. Look at my proof and tell me which steps in my chain of arguments you consider wrong and why.

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rocknrollsailor's avatar

Life goes beyond academics, while taking yr method as a standard for truthfullness has been debunked evry time science goes beyond its past suppositions so if any perspective out of yr scope is unaccountable, you miss out, on da broader meaning of Life

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Bernhard Kutzler's avatar

Can you read? I did NOT talk about academica. I talked about science. Here's what the wonderful Allan Savory has to say about the difference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KRyLn0i2lE

Do you use a GPS? Then, with your attitude, STOP using it. It exists ONLY because a guy made a research taking the same approach as mine more than a hundred years ago. He used nothing but thought experiment and logic. EVERYONE critized him ... until, after years, it became obvious he's right.

Logic is the core of EVERYTHING: science, philosophy, spirituality, ...

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